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Define recommended memberfee

Added by COBRA about 11 years ago. Updated almost 11 years ago.

Status:
Closed
Priority:
Urgent
Assignee:
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Category:
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Target version:
-
Start date:
05 October 2012
Due date:
03 November 2012
% Done:

100%

Estimated time:

Description

As you hopefully all know, we have worked on a global finance regulation to manage all things around the finances. Currently there is only a german version available.

Please download and read the latest version:
http://projects.piratenpartei.ch/dmsf_files/1682?download=

Also read the covering letter:
http://projects.piratenpartei.ch/dmsf_files/1789?download=

Why we need a financial regulation

The Pirate party switzerland is growing daily and new sections are built in outstanding cantons but also in regions like Winterhtur and the city Berne. We want to give you as treasurers and boardmembers more financial autonomy and equality.

1. All sections, cantonal and regional, should be financially autonomous.
2. Members with a limited income must have the same rights as all others.
3. Central encashment takes the load off of you.

How should this work

Currently we have two Membership-Fees: 60.- and 30.- for limited incomes.
Fifty percent are for the cantonal sections and they have to decide how much a regional section may become.

The new approach, which we have elaboratet in a group of different People, takes a different way: Each section, cantonal and regional, defines a recommendend price they want/need for the next year from each Member.

Example: If someone is in a regional section like Winterthur, his Membership-Fee Invoice may look like this:

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Membership-Fee 2013:
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PirateParty Switzerland: 40.00 sFr
PirateParty Zurich: 30.00 sFr
PirateParty Winterthur: 25.00 sFr
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Recommendend Fee: 95.00 sFr
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As you see, the new Membership-Fee is only a recommendation and not fixed price. Thisway each Member has the posibility to pay as much as he can. Every value above 500.00 sFr is taken as a Donation, which is divided the same way as the membership fee. Currently each amount above 30/60 is only a donation for the PPS and not the Section itself.

Important to know for you: This seperation and your recommendations are shown on the invoice slip. The Members will see what you as section have defined and if thats not in their will, they may exit/change the section - so be careful ;)

The maximum of all recommendations can not exceed 500.00 sFr, so you can define a maximum of 125.00 sFr by the given maximum of four levels currently!

If you don't communicate a recommendation, we'll note 15.00 sFr for you.

What we need

If the financial regulation is accepted by the general assembly on the 11.
November 2012, we need YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS. Normally these must be granted by your assemblies. Because thats not possible till then, you as the boardmembers can define a tentative recommendation which you have to approve by your members later.

For next years, you have to approve and communicate the recommendation till the end of october.

As noted above: If you don't define a recommendation, the financial regulation defines a recommendation of 15.00 sFr for you.

Think about your recommendation carefully! It's printed on the invoice slip, so some members may exit your section. Also note Article 20 in the regulation, which defines the fragmentation and includes a safety switch for fairness (which we have to redefine because it's not really working as is).

Calculate your recommendations

As a rule of thumb: About 35% to 40% of all Members will pay the Memberfee.
The number of Members in your Section you can calculate from the MDB - or ask the statistics or me. I'll try to update the MDB with this informations as fast as possible!

Please note: You will get full autonomy! That means you are liable for all of your expenses. The national party - resp.ectively your parent section - will not lend you money for elections or any other campaigns!

Please write me your recommendations as fast as possible, but at the latest till 3. November 2012

If the regulation is not approved

If the regulation is not getting approved by the members on the 11. November,
nothing will change. But we don't think/hope this will happen.


Das heisst für uns:
  • Mitgliederbeitrag für Sektion Wallis definieren (Gesamter Vorstand)
  • diesen bis spät. am 03.11.2013 dem PPS Schatzmeister mitteilen (Ich als Schatzmeister)
  • den Mitgliederbeitrag bei der nächsten GV von den Mitgliedern absegnen lassen (GV)
Actions #1

Updated by dataCore about 11 years ago

Ganz klar Thema für den RL Stammtisch (Traktandum!)

Actions #2

Updated by COBRA almost 11 years ago

  • % Done changed from 0 to 80

Unser Vorschlag wie am Stammtisch 31.10.2012 besprochen: CHF 60.00 für das Vereinsjahr 2013


Zu den Fragen von grimmel und Amorphis:
Diese sind in Abklärung und werden hier publiziert werden, sobald ich Antworten habe.

Actions #3

Updated by COBRA almost 11 years ago

  • Status changed from New to Closed
  • % Done changed from 80 to 100

Habe die Bestätigung für den Mitgliederbeitragsvorschlag von uns erhlaten (CHF 60.00 für 2013)
Wir werden nochmals kontaktiert werden bezüglich Text den wir auf den Rechnungen haben wollen.


Frage von grimmel:
...ob die Verteilung des eigenen Beitrags auch in tiefere Tiers fliessen kann, in denen
man nicht direkt Mitglied ist.

Antwort von Lukas Zurschmiede (Schatzmeister PPS):
Der Betrag wird nur auf die Sektionen aufgeteilt, in welchen das Mitglied Mitglied ist:
  • Wenn Mitglied A in PPS, PPVS und PPBrig Mitglied ist, dann wird der Betrag auf alle drei aufgeteilt.
  • Wenn Mitglied B in PPS und PPVS Mitglied ist, dann wird der Betrag nur auf die PPS und PPVS geteilt.

Sprich eine Sektion, egal welcher Stufe, muss die Administration immer durch die Mitglieder eigenen finanzieren können.
Natürlich kann man bei anderen Sektionen, ob übergeordnet oder auf gelicher Stufe, anklopfen und nach Unterstützung fragen, das sollte aber weitgehenst verhindert werden.


Frage von Animorph:
...Amorphis betont, dass Art. 18.3 der PPS Statuten besagt, man müsse nur die Hälfte des Beitrages
bezahlen, wenn man in der Mitte des Vereinsjahres beitritt. Er fragt wie dies genau gemeint sei, da
bei der FIO ein flexibler Mitgliederbeitrag zwischen CHF 30.00 – 500.00 bezahlt werde.

Antwort von Lukas Zurschmiede (Schatzmeister PPS):
Ja, das ist auch danach noch so. Es werden einfach alle Beträge dann halbiert, so dass die gerechte verteilung auch weiterhin gerecht bleibt:

                  | 1. Hälfte | 2. Hälfte
  Maximum         |   500.00  |   250.00
  Minimum         |    30.00  |    15.00
  Empfehlung PPVS |    60.00  |    30.00
  Empfehlung PPS  |    95.00  |    47.50
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